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Thursday, November 18, 2021

First Intel Alder Lake-P Core i7-12700H Cinebench scores leave both AMD Cezanne Zen 3 and Apple M1 Max in the dust - Notebookcheck.net

Our sources did not mention the exact origin of the scores, but we can probably hazard an informed guess that the Core i7-12700H leak we have with us is indeed from an upcoming MSI GE76 Raider 12UH (?) device.

The first clue that we could be looking at an MSI laptop comes from the picture of this leak itself (see below). Here, we see that the Cinebench window is partially eclipsing what is clearly an MSI logo. 

The other, more convincing evidence comes from a Geekbench leak of the Core i9-12900HK that we had reported on recently (via Wccftech). These scores were from a closed test, and the benchmark entry indicated a BIOS name that goes like E17K4IMS.013. This a BIOS naming convention characteristic of MSI laptops. In fact, the MSI GE76 Raider 11UH that we had reviewed had the BIOS version E17K3IMS.113 while the GE76 Raider 10UH before it carried the E17K2IMS.109 version. Thus, it is becoming increasingly evident that the "17K4" in this Core i9-12900HK leak is indicative of an upcoming MSI GE76 Raider device.

The GE76 Raider is MSI's flagship gaming laptop series, so it is very well possible that the company has already begun testing multiple Alder Lake-P-based SKUs. Therefore, it is quite safe to assume that our sources could have indeed stumbled upon an upcoming GE76 Raider based on the Core i7-12700H.

The Core i7-12700H is an H45-class processor with six Golden Cove (P) cores and eight Gracemont (E) cores (14C/20T) that belongs to what we now know as Alder Lake-P. Alder Lake-P is touted to include TDP ranges from 12 W to 45 W, essentially supplanting mainstream U and H series processors into a combined family.

Based on available information so far, Alder Lake-P will include three segments — U15 (12 W-20 W), U28 (20 W - 28 W), and H45 (35 W - 45 W). There's a H55 "Muscle" variant in the offing as well, but that comes as an S-BGA package distinct from Alder Lake-P.

Traditionally, Intel had the upper hand in single-threaded performance while AMD held the multi-threading crown. Of late, these lines have blurred with Intel 11th gen Tiger Lake-H and AMD Zen 3 Cezanne offerings. While AMD did have a field day with Cezanne, the joy could be short-lived if this Alder Lake-P leak is anything to go by.

Intel seems to have further improved single-thread performance in Alder Lake-P. Comparing the Cinebench R20 single scores, we see that our pre-sample leak with a score of 689 points is about 12% faster than the average Core i9-11950H and 21% faster than AMD's current top dog in mobile, the Ryzen 9 5900HX average. 

Cinebench R20 multi sees the Core i7-12700H in the pre-sample putting up an impressive show with 7158 points. This is a whopping 47% faster than the average AMD Ryzen 9 5900HX. This is in-line with the previous closed Geekbench leak that showed the Core i9-12900HK to be 61.3% faster than the Ryzen 9 5980HX in Geekbench.

Compared to Tiger Lake-H Core i9-11950H average, the pre-sample Core i7-12700H is about 53% while the performance delta further increases to 82% against an average Core i9-10980HK.

Cinebench R23 is an interesting benchmark since it is also natively available for Apple M1 SoCs, which have been making headlines for their superlative performance and efficiency. We do not have single-core scores yet, but the multi-core performance seems to be quite impressive. The Core i7-12700H pre-sample seems to have amassed 18,501 points in Cinebench R23 multi. This is not only 47% faster than the Ryzen 9 5900HX but also 49% faster than the M1 Max. 

This naturally means significant performance boosts over Tiger Lake-H and accordingly, we see the pre-sample scores being 52% faster than the Core i9-11950H. 

All said and done, a leak is still unofficial information so readers should take them with some skepticism. That being said, the data we've been seeing so far from this source and also from the rumor mill around the web are telltale signs that Intel will likely beat AMD Cezanne by a sizeable margin in raw performance with Alder Lake mobile.

We do not know any specifications about these processors yet save for the core counts and possible TDP configuration, so it's hard to infer things holistically right now. That being said, we can still wear the tinfoil hat to get an idea of what to expect in the coming months.

AMD's successor to Cezanne will be Ryzen 6000 Rembrandt APUs that are slated to arrive sometime in early 2022. We hear Rembrandt is already in mass production and that it will use 6 nm Zen 3+ cores with support for PCIe Gen 4, DDR5, LPDDR5, and integrated RDNA 2 graphics. The move from Zen 3 to Zen 3+ or Zen 3D will bring in palpable performance boosts surely, but will it be enough to eclipse Alder Lake mobile remains an intriguing question. 

From what we've been hearing so far, the real competition begins with Ryzen 7000 Zen 4. Ryzen 7000 mobile will include Phoenix-H 45 W (up to 8C/16T) and Raphael-H 45 W+ (up to 16C/32T) offerings slated to arrive in late 2022. 

Thus, we may once again see alternating leadership in mobile between Intel and AMD, which is ultimately good for the end-user. 2022 seems pretty exciting already.

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